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PARALLEL HISTORY BIBLE - Lamentations 4:8


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LXX- Greek Septuagint - Lamentations 4:8

εσκοτασεν υπερ 5228 ασβολην το 3588 ειδος 1491 αυτων 846 ουκ 3756 επεγνωσθησαν εν 1722 1520 ταις 3588 εξοδοις επαγη δερμα αυτων 846 επι 1909 τα 3588 οστεα 3747 αυτων 846 εξηρανθησαν εγενηθησαν 1096 5675 ωσπερ 5618 ξυλον 3586

Douay Rheims Bible

Heth. Their face is now made blacker than coals, and they are not known in the streets: their skin hath stuck to their bones, it is withered, and is become like wood.

King James Bible - Lamentations 4:8

Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.

World English Bible

Their appearance is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: Their skin clings to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.

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Lamentations 4:8

Early Christian Commentary - (A.D. 100 - A.D. 325)

Anf-01 ii.ii.xvii Pg 9
This is not found in Scripture. [They were probably in Clement’s version. Comp. Ps. cxix. 83.]



Anf-01 v.iii.xii Pg 12
Gen. xviii. 27; Job xxx. 19.

before God. And David says, “Who am I before Thee, O Lord, that Thou hast glorified me hitherto?”721

721


Anf-01 ii.ii.xvii Pg 9
This is not found in Scripture. [They were probably in Clement’s version. Comp. Ps. cxix. 83.]



Anf-01 ix.ii.xix Pg 3
Gen. i. 2.

They will have it, moreover, that he spoke of the second Tetrad, the offspring of the first, in this way—by naming an abyss and darkness, in which were also water, and the Spirit moving upon the water. Then, proceeding to mention the Decad, he names light, day, night, the firmament, the evening, the morning, dry land, sea, plants, and, in the tenth place, trees. Thus, by means of these ten names, he indicated the ten Æons. The power of the Duodecad, again, was shadowed forth by him thus:—He names the sun, moon, stars, seasons, years, whales, fishes, reptiles, birds, quadrupeds, wild beasts, and after all these, in the twelfth place, man. Thus they teach that the Triacontad was spoken of through Moses by the Spirit. Moreover, man also, being formed after the image of the power above, had in himself that ability which flows from the one source. This ability was seated in the region of the brain, from which four faculties proceed, after the image of the Tetrad above, and these are called: the first, sight, the second, hearing, the third, smell, and the fourth,2881

2881 One of the senses was thus capriciously cancelled by these heretics.

taste. And they say that the Ogdoad is indicated by man in this way: that he possesses two ears, the like number of eyes, also two nostrils, and a twofold taste, namely, of bitter and sweet. Moreover, they teach that the whole man contains the entire image of the Triacontad as follows: In his hands, by means of his fingers, he bears the Decad; and in his whole body the Duodecad, inasmuch as his body is divided into twelve members; for they portion that out, as the body of Truth is divided by them—a point of which we have already spoken.2882

2882 See above, chap. xiv. 2.

But the Ogdoad, as being unspeakable and invisible, is understood as hidden in the viscera.


Anf-03 v.iv.iii.iv Pg 8
Gen. i.

not as if He were ignorant of the good until He saw it; but because it was good, He therefore saw it, and honoured it, and set His seal upon it; and consummated2745

2745 Dispungens, i.e., examinans et probans et ita quasi consummans (Oehler).

the goodness of His works by His vouchsafing to them that contemplation. Thus God blessed what He made good, in order that He might commend Himself to you as whole and perfect, good both in word and act.2746

2746 This twofold virtue is very tersely expressed: “Sic et benedicebat quæ benefaciebat.”

As yet the Word knew no malediction, because He was a stranger to malefaction.2747

2747 This, the translator fears, is only a clumsy way of representing the terseness of our author’s “maledicere” and “malefacere.”

We shall see what reasons required this also of God. Meanwhile the world consisted of all things good, plainly foreshowing how much good was preparing for him for whom all this was provided. Who indeed was so worthy of dwelling amongst the works of God, as he who was His own image and likeness? That image was wrought out by a goodness even more operative than its wont,2748

2748 Bonitas et quidem operantior.

with no imperious word, but with friendly hand preceded by an almost affable2749

2749 Blandiente.

utterance: “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.”2750

2750


Anf-03 v.v.xxvi Pg 17
Gen. i. 1, 2.

—the very same earth, no doubt, which God made, and of which the Scripture had been speaking at that very moment.6381

6381 Cum maxime edixerat.

For that very “but6382

6382 The “autem” of the note just before this.

is inserted into the narrative like a clasp,6383

6383 Fibula.

(in its function) of a conjunctive particle, to connect the two sentences indissolubly together: “But the earth.” This word carries back the mind to that earth of which mention had just been made, and binds the sense thereunto.6384

6384 Alligat sensum.

Take away this “but,” and the tie is loosened; so much so that the passage, “But the earth was without form, and void,” may then seem to have been meant for any other earth.


Anf-03 vi.iii.iii Pg 8
Gen. i. 1, 2, and comp. the LXX.

The first thing, O man, which you have to venerate, is the age of the waters in that their substance is ancient; the second, their dignity, in that they were the seat of the Divine Spirit, more pleasing to Him, no doubt, than all the other then existing elements. For the darkness was total thus far, shapeless, without the ornament of stars; and the abyss gloomy; and the earth unfurnished; and the heaven unwrought: water8557

8557 Liquor.

alone—always a perfect, gladsome, simple material substance, pure in itself—supplied a worthy vehicle to God.  What of the fact that waters were in some way the regulating powers by which the disposition of the world thenceforward was constituted by God?  For the suspension of the celestial firmament in the midst He caused by “dividing the waters;”8558

8558


Anf-03 v.iv.v.xxvi Pg 11
Gen. i. 2.

Whose kingdom shall I wish to come—his, of whom I never heard as the king of glory; or His, in whose hand are even the hearts of kings? Who shall give me my daily4537

4537


Anf-03 v.v.xxiii Pg 3
Gen. i. 2.

For he resolves6350

6350 Redigit in.

the word earth into Matter, because that which is made out of it is the earth.  And to the word was he gives the same direction, as if it pointed to what had always existed unbegotten and unmade. It was without form, moreover, and void, because he will have Matter to have existed shapeless and confused, and without the finish of a maker’s hand.6351

6351 Inconditam: we have combined the two senses of the word.

Now these opinions of his I will refute singly; but first I wish to say to him, by way of general answer: We are of opinion that Matter is pointed at in these terms. But yet does the Scripture intimate that, because Matter was in existence before all, anything of like condition6352

6352 Tale aliquid.

was even formed out of it? Nothing of the kind. Matter might have had existence, if it so pleased—or rather if Hermogenes so pleased. It might, I say, have existed, and yet God might not have made anything out of it, either as it was unsuitable to Him to have required the aid of anything, or at least because He is not shown to have made anything out of Matter. Its existence must therefore be without a cause, you will say. Oh, no! certainly6353

6353 Plane: ironical.

not without cause. For even if the world were not made out of it, yet a heresy has been hatched there from; and a specially impudent one too, because it is not Matter which has produced the heresy, but the heresy has rather made Matter itself.


Anf-03 v.v.xxv Pg 3
Gen. i. 2.

Of course, if I were to ask, to which of the two earths the name earth is best suited,6361

6361 Quæ cui nomen terræ accommodare debeat. This is literally a double question, asking about the fitness of the name, and to which earth it is best adapted.

I shall be told that the earth which was made derived the appellation from that of which it was made, on the ground that it is more likely that the offspring should get its name from the original, than the original from the offspring. This being the case, another question presents itself to us, whether it is right and proper that this earth which God made should have derived its name from that out of which He made it? For I find from Hermogenes and the rest of the Materialist heretics,6362

6362 He means those who have gone wrong on the eternity of matter.

that while the one earth was indeed “without form, and void,” this one of ours obtained from God in an equal degree6363

6363 Proinde.

both form, and beauty, and symmetry; and therefore that the earth which was created was a different thing from that out of which it was created. Now, having become a different thing, it could not possibly have shared with the other in its name, after it had declined from its condition. If earth was the proper name of the (original) Matter, this world of ours, which is not Matter, because it has become another thing, is unfit to bear the name of earth, seeing that that name belongs to something else, and is a stranger to its nature. But (you will tell me) Matter which has undergone creation, that is, our earth, had with its original a community of name no less than of kind. By no means. For although the pitcher is formed out of the clay, I shall no longer call it clay, but a pitcher; so likewise, although electrum6364

6364 A mixed metal, of the colour of amber.

is compounded of gold and silver, I shall yet not call it either gold or silver, but electrum. When there is a departure from the nature of any thing, there is likewise a relinquishment of its name—with a propriety which is alike demanded by the designation and the condition. How great a change indeed from the condition of that earth, which is Matter, has come over this earth of ours, is plain even from the fact that the latter has received this testimony to its goodness in Genesis, “And God saw that it was good;”6365

6365


Anf-03 v.v.xxx Pg 3
Gen. i. 2.

as if these blended6427

6427 Confusæ.

substances, presented us with arguments for his massive pile of Matter.6428

6428 Massalis illius molis.

Now, so discriminating an enumeration of certain and distinct elements (as we have in this passage), which severally designates “darkness,” “the deep,” “the Spirit of God,” “the waters,” forbids the inference that anything confused or (from such confusion) uncertain is meant. Still more, when He ascribed to them their own places,6429

6429 Situs.

darkness on the face of the deep,” “the Spirit upon the face of the waters,” He repudiated all confusion in the substances; and by demonstrating their separate position,6430

6430 Dispositionem.

He demonstrated also their distinction.  Most absurd, indeed, would it be that Matter, which is introduced to our view as “without form,” should have its “formless” condition maintained by so many words indicative of form,6431

6431 Tot formarum vocabulis.

without any intimation of what that confused body6432

6432 Corpus confusionis.

is, which must of course be supposed to be unique,6433

6433 Unicum.

since it is without form.6434

6434 Informe.

For that which is without form is uniform; but even6435

6435 Autem.

that which is without form, when it is blended together6436

6436 Confusum.

from various component parts,6437

6437 Ex varietate.

must necessarily have one outward appearance;6438

6438 Unam speciem.

and it has not any appearance, until it has the one appearance (which comes) from many parts combined.6439

6439 Unam ex multis speciem.

Now Matter either had those specific parts6440

6440 Istas species.

within itself, from the words indicative of which it had to be understood—I mean “darkness,” and “the deep,” and “the Spirit,” and “the waters”—or it had them not. If it had them, how is it introduced as being “without form?”6441

6441 Non habens formas.

If it had them not, how does it become known?6442

6442 Agnoscitur.



Anf-03 v.v.xxxii Pg 8
De spiritu. This shows that Tertullian took the spirit of Gen. i. 2 in the inferior sense.

also Amos says, “He that strengtheneth the thunder6462

6462 So also the Septuagint.

, and createth the wind, and declareth His Christ6463

6463 So also the Septuagint.

unto men;”6464

6464


Anf-03 v.v.xxxii Pg 19
Gen. i. 2.

refers to Matter, as indeed do all those other Scriptures here and there,6473

6473 In disperso.

which demonstrate that the separate parts were made out of Matter. It must follow, then,6474

6474 Ergo: Tertullian’s answer.

that as earth consisted of earth, so also depth consisted of depth, and darkness of darkness, and the wind and waters of wind and waters. And, as we said above,6475

6475 Ch. xxx., towards the end.

Matter could not have been without form, since it had specific parts, which were formed out of it—although as separate things6476

6476 Ut et aliæ.

—unless, indeed, they were not separate, but were the very same with those out of which they came. For it is really impossible that those specific things, which are set forth under the same names, should have been diverse; because in that case6477

6477 Jam.

the operation of God might seem to be useless,6478

6478 Otiosa.

if it made things which existed already; since that alone would be a creation,6479

6479 Generatio: creation in the highest sense of matter issuing from the maker. Another reading has “generosiora essent,” for our “generatio sola esset,” meaning that, “those things would be nobler which had not been made,” which is obviously quite opposed to Tertullian’s argument.

when things came into being, which had not been (previously) made. Therefore, to conclude, either Moses then pointed to Matter when he wrote the words: “And darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God moved on the face of the waters;” or else, inasmuch as these specific parts of creation are afterwards shown in other passages to have been made by God, they ought to have been with equal explicitness6480

6480 Æque.

shown to have been made out of the Matter which, according to you, Moses had previously mentioned;6481

6481 Præmiserat.

or else, finally, if Moses pointed to those specific parts, and not to Matter, I want to know where Matter has been pointed out at all.


Anf-01 ix.ii.xix Pg 3
Gen. i. 2.

They will have it, moreover, that he spoke of the second Tetrad, the offspring of the first, in this way—by naming an abyss and darkness, in which were also water, and the Spirit moving upon the water. Then, proceeding to mention the Decad, he names light, day, night, the firmament, the evening, the morning, dry land, sea, plants, and, in the tenth place, trees. Thus, by means of these ten names, he indicated the ten Æons. The power of the Duodecad, again, was shadowed forth by him thus:—He names the sun, moon, stars, seasons, years, whales, fishes, reptiles, birds, quadrupeds, wild beasts, and after all these, in the twelfth place, man. Thus they teach that the Triacontad was spoken of through Moses by the Spirit. Moreover, man also, being formed after the image of the power above, had in himself that ability which flows from the one source. This ability was seated in the region of the brain, from which four faculties proceed, after the image of the Tetrad above, and these are called: the first, sight, the second, hearing, the third, smell, and the fourth,2881

2881 One of the senses was thus capriciously cancelled by these heretics.

taste. And they say that the Ogdoad is indicated by man in this way: that he possesses two ears, the like number of eyes, also two nostrils, and a twofold taste, namely, of bitter and sweet. Moreover, they teach that the whole man contains the entire image of the Triacontad as follows: In his hands, by means of his fingers, he bears the Decad; and in his whole body the Duodecad, inasmuch as his body is divided into twelve members; for they portion that out, as the body of Truth is divided by them—a point of which we have already spoken.2882

2882 See above, chap. xiv. 2.

But the Ogdoad, as being unspeakable and invisible, is understood as hidden in the viscera.


Anf-03 v.iv.iii.iv Pg 8
Gen. i.

not as if He were ignorant of the good until He saw it; but because it was good, He therefore saw it, and honoured it, and set His seal upon it; and consummated2745

2745 Dispungens, i.e., examinans et probans et ita quasi consummans (Oehler).

the goodness of His works by His vouchsafing to them that contemplation. Thus God blessed what He made good, in order that He might commend Himself to you as whole and perfect, good both in word and act.2746

2746 This twofold virtue is very tersely expressed: “Sic et benedicebat quæ benefaciebat.”

As yet the Word knew no malediction, because He was a stranger to malefaction.2747

2747 This, the translator fears, is only a clumsy way of representing the terseness of our author’s “maledicere” and “malefacere.”

We shall see what reasons required this also of God. Meanwhile the world consisted of all things good, plainly foreshowing how much good was preparing for him for whom all this was provided. Who indeed was so worthy of dwelling amongst the works of God, as he who was His own image and likeness? That image was wrought out by a goodness even more operative than its wont,2748

2748 Bonitas et quidem operantior.

with no imperious word, but with friendly hand preceded by an almost affable2749

2749 Blandiente.

utterance: “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.”2750

2750


Anf-03 v.v.xxvi Pg 17
Gen. i. 1, 2.

—the very same earth, no doubt, which God made, and of which the Scripture had been speaking at that very moment.6381

6381 Cum maxime edixerat.

For that very “but6382

6382 The “autem” of the note just before this.

is inserted into the narrative like a clasp,6383

6383 Fibula.

(in its function) of a conjunctive particle, to connect the two sentences indissolubly together: “But the earth.” This word carries back the mind to that earth of which mention had just been made, and binds the sense thereunto.6384

6384 Alligat sensum.

Take away this “but,” and the tie is loosened; so much so that the passage, “But the earth was without form, and void,” may then seem to have been meant for any other earth.


Anf-03 vi.iii.iii Pg 8
Gen. i. 1, 2, and comp. the LXX.

The first thing, O man, which you have to venerate, is the age of the waters in that their substance is ancient; the second, their dignity, in that they were the seat of the Divine Spirit, more pleasing to Him, no doubt, than all the other then existing elements. For the darkness was total thus far, shapeless, without the ornament of stars; and the abyss gloomy; and the earth unfurnished; and the heaven unwrought: water8557

8557 Liquor.

alone—always a perfect, gladsome, simple material substance, pure in itself—supplied a worthy vehicle to God.  What of the fact that waters were in some way the regulating powers by which the disposition of the world thenceforward was constituted by God?  For the suspension of the celestial firmament in the midst He caused by “dividing the waters;”8558

8558


Anf-03 v.iv.v.xxvi Pg 11
Gen. i. 2.

Whose kingdom shall I wish to come—his, of whom I never heard as the king of glory; or His, in whose hand are even the hearts of kings? Who shall give me my daily4537

4537


Anf-03 v.v.xxiii Pg 3
Gen. i. 2.

For he resolves6350

6350 Redigit in.

the word earth into Matter, because that which is made out of it is the earth.  And to the word was he gives the same direction, as if it pointed to what had always existed unbegotten and unmade. It was without form, moreover, and void, because he will have Matter to have existed shapeless and confused, and without the finish of a maker’s hand.6351

6351 Inconditam: we have combined the two senses of the word.

Now these opinions of his I will refute singly; but first I wish to say to him, by way of general answer: We are of opinion that Matter is pointed at in these terms. But yet does the Scripture intimate that, because Matter was in existence before all, anything of like condition6352

6352 Tale aliquid.

was even formed out of it? Nothing of the kind. Matter might have had existence, if it so pleased—or rather if Hermogenes so pleased. It might, I say, have existed, and yet God might not have made anything out of it, either as it was unsuitable to Him to have required the aid of anything, or at least because He is not shown to have made anything out of Matter. Its existence must therefore be without a cause, you will say. Oh, no! certainly6353

6353 Plane: ironical.

not without cause. For even if the world were not made out of it, yet a heresy has been hatched there from; and a specially impudent one too, because it is not Matter which has produced the heresy, but the heresy has rather made Matter itself.


Anf-03 v.v.xxv Pg 3
Gen. i. 2.

Of course, if I were to ask, to which of the two earths the name earth is best suited,6361

6361 Quæ cui nomen terræ accommodare debeat. This is literally a double question, asking about the fitness of the name, and to which earth it is best adapted.

I shall be told that the earth which was made derived the appellation from that of which it was made, on the ground that it is more likely that the offspring should get its name from the original, than the original from the offspring. This being the case, another question presents itself to us, whether it is right and proper that this earth which God made should have derived its name from that out of which He made it? For I find from Hermogenes and the rest of the Materialist heretics,6362

6362 He means those who have gone wrong on the eternity of matter.

that while the one earth was indeed “without form, and void,” this one of ours obtained from God in an equal degree6363

6363 Proinde.

both form, and beauty, and symmetry; and therefore that the earth which was created was a different thing from that out of which it was created. Now, having become a different thing, it could not possibly have shared with the other in its name, after it had declined from its condition. If earth was the proper name of the (original) Matter, this world of ours, which is not Matter, because it has become another thing, is unfit to bear the name of earth, seeing that that name belongs to something else, and is a stranger to its nature. But (you will tell me) Matter which has undergone creation, that is, our earth, had with its original a community of name no less than of kind. By no means. For although the pitcher is formed out of the clay, I shall no longer call it clay, but a pitcher; so likewise, although electrum6364

6364 A mixed metal, of the colour of amber.

is compounded of gold and silver, I shall yet not call it either gold or silver, but electrum. When there is a departure from the nature of any thing, there is likewise a relinquishment of its name—with a propriety which is alike demanded by the designation and the condition. How great a change indeed from the condition of that earth, which is Matter, has come over this earth of ours, is plain even from the fact that the latter has received this testimony to its goodness in Genesis, “And God saw that it was good;”6365

6365


Anf-03 v.v.xxx Pg 3
Gen. i. 2.

as if these blended6427

6427 Confusæ.

substances, presented us with arguments for his massive pile of Matter.6428

6428 Massalis illius molis.

Now, so discriminating an enumeration of certain and distinct elements (as we have in this passage), which severally designates “darkness,” “the deep,” “the Spirit of God,” “the waters,” forbids the inference that anything confused or (from such confusion) uncertain is meant. Still more, when He ascribed to them their own places,6429

6429 Situs.

darkness on the face of the deep,” “the Spirit upon the face of the waters,” He repudiated all confusion in the substances; and by demonstrating their separate position,6430

6430 Dispositionem.

He demonstrated also their distinction.  Most absurd, indeed, would it be that Matter, which is introduced to our view as “without form,” should have its “formless” condition maintained by so many words indicative of form,6431

6431 Tot formarum vocabulis.

without any intimation of what that confused body6432

6432 Corpus confusionis.

is, which must of course be supposed to be unique,6433

6433 Unicum.

since it is without form.6434

6434 Informe.

For that which is without form is uniform; but even6435

6435 Autem.

that which is without form, when it is blended together6436

6436 Confusum.

from various component parts,6437

6437 Ex varietate.

must necessarily have one outward appearance;6438

6438 Unam speciem.

and it has not any appearance, until it has the one appearance (which comes) from many parts combined.6439

6439 Unam ex multis speciem.

Now Matter either had those specific parts6440

6440 Istas species.

within itself, from the words indicative of which it had to be understood—I mean “darkness,” and “the deep,” and “the Spirit,” and “the waters”—or it had them not. If it had them, how is it introduced as being “without form?”6441

6441 Non habens formas.

If it had them not, how does it become known?6442

6442 Agnoscitur.



Anf-03 v.v.xxxii Pg 8
De spiritu. This shows that Tertullian took the spirit of Gen. i. 2 in the inferior sense.

also Amos says, “He that strengtheneth the thunder6462

6462 So also the Septuagint.

, and createth the wind, and declareth His Christ6463

6463 So also the Septuagint.

unto men;”6464

6464


Anf-03 v.v.xxxii Pg 19
Gen. i. 2.

refers to Matter, as indeed do all those other Scriptures here and there,6473

6473 In disperso.

which demonstrate that the separate parts were made out of Matter. It must follow, then,6474

6474 Ergo: Tertullian’s answer.

that as earth consisted of earth, so also depth consisted of depth, and darkness of darkness, and the wind and waters of wind and waters. And, as we said above,6475

6475 Ch. xxx., towards the end.

Matter could not have been without form, since it had specific parts, which were formed out of it—although as separate things6476

6476 Ut et aliæ.

—unless, indeed, they were not separate, but were the very same with those out of which they came. For it is really impossible that those specific things, which are set forth under the same names, should have been diverse; because in that case6477

6477 Jam.

the operation of God might seem to be useless,6478

6478 Otiosa.

if it made things which existed already; since that alone would be a creation,6479

6479 Generatio: creation in the highest sense of matter issuing from the maker. Another reading has “generosiora essent,” for our “generatio sola esset,” meaning that, “those things would be nobler which had not been made,” which is obviously quite opposed to Tertullian’s argument.

when things came into being, which had not been (previously) made. Therefore, to conclude, either Moses then pointed to Matter when he wrote the words: “And darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God moved on the face of the waters;” or else, inasmuch as these specific parts of creation are afterwards shown in other passages to have been made by God, they ought to have been with equal explicitness6480

6480 Æque.

shown to have been made out of the Matter which, according to you, Moses had previously mentioned;6481

6481 Præmiserat.

or else, finally, if Moses pointed to those specific parts, and not to Matter, I want to know where Matter has been pointed out at all.

Edersheim Bible History

Lifetimes xi.ix Pg 284.1


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